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Curyos

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #135 on: 13:16:06 - 09/02/10 »
Ironically, I'm starting to find Ignite useful along with Flame Recoil.

Also, Wisdom and Soul Combustion were meant for each other, at least until you get Intense Magmaforms. Then you might run the risk of overbuffing.

Intense magmaform actually does some damage so it will use up that +next pool.  I haven't had much luck with that type of gear, though.  It was just too inconsistent.  Too many charms that are only effective if you draw them at a certain time: soul combustion early, intense magmaform late, or wisdom in the middle.  It was okay for PvP (especially if you are facing an opponent likely to play spirit), but the RNG wouldn't be nice to me 3 times in a row in the coliseum.
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #136 on: 16:31:58 - 09/02/10 »
I can tell those decks are a pain to tanks, my tank gear was rather good against magic, only melee EAs/cpb could be a problem if I didn't draw my Energy Bloom timely, now Intense magmaform+wisdom is like "haha you're laughing with your 300 ward while I'm at 10 charms left, prepare to cry!"
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #137 on: 03:53:30 - 09/07/10 »
How can i distribute my attributes?

I have 900 attributes to distribute, how should i do it?

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #138 on: 13:47:54 - 09/07/10 »
900 stats is character growth
character isn't total amount of stats you can distribute

http://progenitor-softworks.com/ew/index.php?title=Character_growth#Character_Growth

Pyros have Power as a primary stat, Intellect as a secondary.
Try to keep them high enough to use the best Fire charms at your level.

There're 2 choices for 3rd stat - Dex and Con. The vast majority of pyros picks Dex as a third stat, in order to use Shadow charms (2nd highest damage magic rune), spirit (Pow+Dex), also banes.

The 4th stat - Con should be about 10% of your total sum of stats.
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #139 on: 15:11:04 - 09/07/10 »
The 4th stat - Con should be about 10% of your total sum of stats.

Dumping con that hard will seriously limit your available charms in early-mid 40s making your life difficult in PvE and less versatile, eg jade charms need 248 con, and to get access to a decent number of hyphused sets then need decent con.  At the moment at mid level 44 with 1492 stat points my con is 270 or 18%.

Go back a few pages on this topic and I asked that same question a while back.

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #140 on: 19:07:33 - 09/07/10 »
One of the nice things about pyros is that you can make a decent coliseum gear up through the mid-40s using just the fire rune.  So as long as you make sure you have the power and int to use the fire rune charms at the level they become available, you have a lot of flexibility to play around with your other stats.

I actually had a higher con than dex through level 43 or so, but I don't really recommend that as a strategy.  It really helped my melee gears, but I got beat up a lot by the other pyros who could use icy winds. 
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #141 on: 07:15:57 - 09/10/10 »
So, perhaps crazy question.

I'm slowly working my way up toward being a Pyro, heading the Novice->Sage->Pyro route.  My stats are pretty decent in regards to Fire charms, but I'm wondering about other charms.  Specifically I'm thinking, I wonder if it could be useful, at least as a Sage, to be able to use Holy class charms.

My reasoning for this is that I'm a big fan of +damage... Perhaps that goes without saying.  So I look at the Holy Sage charms and think, gosh, pull these and it's like getting a bunch of +magic since I get the attack and the ward which I can then use to increase my projection attacks without having to put "plain" ward charms in my deck.

Is this... sane at all?  I mean, Fire is Pow/Int and Holy is Int/Con so ... I don't know.

(Really, the lure is the story side of things for it, if that makes any sense.  Still, I don't want to end up being totally broken just to be able to use some decent Holy charms)

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #142 on: 08:12:07 - 09/10/10 »
The Sage Holy charms and the projection might look nice and all, though they're not really a viable strategy in PvP, so no worries, you don't need those. :)
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #143 on: 11:02:25 - 09/10/10 »
My con was so high because I wanted to use the holy sage projection charms.

So yeah, you are exactly right, the holy projection charms are the best of the bunch by far.  But Sparky is right too, the projection doesn't really work well for pvp. 
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #144 on: 17:05:10 - 11/05/10 »
Dear Pyros,

What are the best charms you are using after level 45-46? I notice a big decrease on my coliseum victories. There are many players with very good magic cpb and aura-based gears that are able to counteract my standard "pyro package" pyro crests, fiery inspiration, soul combustion, etc.

I will highly appreciate any suggestions.

Cheers

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #145 on: 19:02:46 - 11/05/10 »

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #146 on: 19:22:27 - 11/05/10 »
Dear Pyros,

What are the best charms you are using after level 45-46? I notice a big decrease on my coliseum victories. There are many players with very good magic cpb and aura-based gears that are able to counteract my standard "pyro package" pyro crests, fiery inspiration, soul combustion, etc.

I will highly appreciate any suggestions.

Cheers

Well you can try to build around wisdom and intense magmaform.  I've seen people having some success with some shortdeck soul combustion-magmaforms.  Those charms didn't exist when I was going through those levels, so I just took my lumps while trying to gain the stats for a CPB magic gear.  Once you can use Storm of Alcyone to knock down your opponents CPB, your can build a gear around high damage fire charms again (But it's not really compatible with soul combustion).
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #147 on: 14:46:36 - 11/06/10 »
Thanks pal

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #148 on: 23:50:01 - 12/22/10 »
Can anyone post the new pyro class charms?

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #149 on: 21:07:01 - 01/06/11 »
For those that went Fighter -> Wizard -> Pyromaniac, here are the new charms:

Fighter Charms:

[Fighter's Presence]
+2 to your summons
Focus: 4 (cumul)
Bane: Destroy 1 willpower, 11 armor and ward during 5 turns

Debuff

Requires:
Level 38
348 Power
Fighter R1

Cost: Bone Insignia x1, 1000g for 1 charm


[Way of the Fighter]
Destroy 30 armor
Destroy 30 ward
+30 to next melee
+30 to next magic

Tech

Requires:
Level 38
348 Power
Fighter R1

Cost: Prophetic Insignia x1, 1000g for 1 charm


Wizard Charms:

[Wizard's Familiar]
Destroy 64 ward
Summon: +1 to duration of target's banes or +11 to next magic during 5 turns

Summon/Debuff

Requires:
Level 47
609 Power
Wizard R2
Summoning R3

Cost: Lust Insignia x1, 8000g for 5 charms


[Touch of an Archmage]
[For each enemy]
Lose 9 life
[Target all enemies]
Bane: 18 magic during 5 turns

Debuff

Requires:
Level 47
609 Power
Wizard R2
Sap R3

Cost: Timeless Insignia x1, 8000g for 5 charms


Pyromaniac Charms:

[Phoenix Reborn]
Summon: 1 magic for each magic rune played or discarded during 3 turns
43 Magic
3 Spirit on yourself
(Target all allies)
+1 to target's summons

Earth/Fire

Requires:
Level 48
Earth R5
Fire R5

Cost: Timeless Insignia x1, 25,000g for 1 charm

[Fuel Enmity]
Curse: +1 to next melee for every 1 ward on target (up to 100) during 1 turn
+22 to next melee
+22 to next magic
[For every 1 armor on target (up to 100)]
+1 to next magic

Tech

Requires:
Level 48
Recklessness R3

Cost: Lust Insignia x1, 25,000g for 1 charm
« Last Edit: 23:12:47 - 01/06/11 by Mcbee »
<Lejes> So we're getting (Target enemy Mcbee) and [For each Mcbee] charms next patch, right?