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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #120 on: 18:47:00 - 04/12/10 »
Well, greater minds than mine have argued (endlessly) about melee vs magic.  My point was supposed to be, although I got a little muddled in there, that there is no clear advantage for cpb magic over melee.
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #121 on: 17:15:19 - 04/17/10 »
As I understand, the point is magic or melee vs spirit (and maybe banes). Spirit kills Pyros later  :(

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #122 on: 20:09:18 - 04/19/10 »
I'm only lvl 23 with my char which is aimed to be a pyro.
My plan is to go Fighter (already taken this path) > Wizard > Pyro.

Got a question though..
I'm at a loss for how to distribute my stats at the higher levels. Some say con sucks, other says dex isn't important enough. Are there any tips for a newcomer ? :)
I'd hate to muck up my char and it would be cool to get a few pointers from the higher levels on which dump stat is more important and why. Basically looking for some stats to compare to in order to plan ahead for the higher level items.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #123 on: 20:58:22 - 04/19/10 »
Go for Power - Int -Dex
you should keep them high enough to use top Fire and Shadow charms at any level.
Example - For lvl 27 - you should have about 180 pow 135 int, 115 dex (enough for Honor Fire)
then you should get 192 pow, 115 dex for Honor Shadow.

keep con dumped.
you should have about 200 con at level 40 (For Icy winds)

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #124 on: 06:27:06 - 04/20/10 »
As I understand, the point is magic or melee vs spirit (and maybe banes). Spirit kills Pyros later  :(

Not at 1v1, at least I don't have that problem, even running 5x Soul Combustion.
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #125 on: 15:06:23 - 04/21/10 »
Not at 1v1, at least I don't have that problem, even running 5x Soul Combustion.

Really?  I can occasionally beat a spirit user with my soul combustion gear, but they give me a lot of trouble.  Of course I use a lot of extra actions to keep my damage per turn up.  Do you include willpower?
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #126 on: 15:37:36 - 04/21/10 »
Not at 1v1, at least I don't have that problem, even running 5x Soul Combustion.

Really?  I can occasionally beat a spirit user with my soul combustion gear, but they give me a lot of trouble.  Of course I use a lot of extra actions to keep my damage per turn up.  Do you include willpower?
My only Willpower Source are Fiery Embrace and Fury of the Elements, 5 of each.
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #127 on: 21:40:28 - 05/01/10 »
As I understand, the point is magic or melee vs spirit (and maybe banes). Spirit kills Pyros later  :(

Not at 1v1, at least I don't have that problem, even running 5x Soul Combustion.

Depends on the spirit gear, you can blast through many, but other spirit gears it's not so easy.

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #128 on: 17:49:46 - 05/03/10 »
So here's a rough 1st draft of the idea I proposed earlier in the thread. This is a gear designed for 3v3 to be attained by level 47. Thoughts?

5x ice spikes
5x spark
5x ley line
5x manastorm
5x blazing inferno
5x cold deeps
5x forest medicine
5x lightflake
5x icy winds
5x erythic flames
5x blue dragon bone

Alternatives: Banishing Ice Stone? Emblem of Support? Peaceful Wave?

And what kind of group would this work well in? Wardens? Hierarchs? Pyros?
My chars, cave story style: Quote - Balrog - Misery - Curly - Ballos - King - The Doctor

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #129 on: 06:54:00 - 05/06/10 »
Just have to say, I absolutely love lightning arc in a soul combustion gear.

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #130 on: 07:18:30 - 05/06/10 »
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And what kind of group would this work well in? Wardens? Hierarchs? Pyros?
I've seen Asuka(Warden)-Mirage-Terry(Pyro) magic 3v3 team. The had quite good success

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #131 on: 22:04:28 - 05/06/10 »
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And what kind of group would this work well in? Wardens? Hierarchs? Pyros?
I've seen Asuka(Warden)-Mirage-Terry(Pyro) magic 3v3 team. The had quite good success

They always short geared, now they run spirit.
They used a T2 tactic pretty much with the addition of purge.
Vita banishment short gear.

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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #132 on: 11:52:22 - 06/20/10 »
So here's a rough 1st draft of the idea I proposed earlier in the thread. This is a gear designed for 3v3 to be attained by level 47. Thoughts?

5x ice spikes
5x spark
5x ley line
5x manastorm
5x blazing inferno
5x cold deeps
5x forest medicine
5x lightflake
5x icy winds
5x erythic flames
5x blue dragon bone

Alternatives: Banishing Ice Stone? Emblem of Support? Peaceful Wave?

And what kind of group would this work well in? Wardens? Hierarchs? Pyros?

I've finally gotten the stats on Slong to run a CPB magic gear for about a month now, and I now agree that CPB magic can hold it's own.  I've gone from being just awful to about average in 1v1 and 2v2 colis (I haven't gotten a chance to try it in 3v3).  So just imagine what it could do in the hands of a good player.

Comment on the deck above:  The main thing I see is of 40 non-EA charms,  20 of them don't do any damage.  That really weakens the CPB, and will probably also give you long runs without draining your +next pool.  I would probably trade lightflake for enhancing light: Does damage, gives CPB, and eliminates your only aura so you can use the empathic flame and shadow (which I would probably dump ley line and BDB for).
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #133 on: 13:21:49 - 06/22/10 »
The winner deck of Schuissilicious (acts more as support as Aplsos and Dissident were doing more damage, sometimes I did a lot too)

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Gear '3v3 Magic' (46 charms)
Magic: 1015 (15% P)
Shifting: 200 (25% P)

Armor: 238

Extra attacks: 10
Banes: 5
Auras: 5
Focus: 5 (40)

Manastorm x5
Icy Winds x5
Blazing Inferno x5
Spark x5
Nhyle's Compassion x3
Ice Spikes x5
Forest Medicine x5
Song of Chaos x5
Lightning Rod x5
Divinium Glyph x2
Salamath's Judgement x1
Add some Frozen Grave, Winter Celebration, Enhancing Light...
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Re: Sorryz fer burnin' yer waffle! [Pyromaniac Guide]
« Reply #134 on: 19:24:38 - 09/01/10 »
Ironically, I'm starting to find Ignite useful along with Flame Recoil.

Also, Wisdom and Soul Combustion were meant for each other, at least until you get Intense Magmaforms. Then you might run the risk of overbuffing.