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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #15 on: 07:41:50 - 11/21/08 »
you must be lvl 30 to start levelling it, i think.
Well ... probably half of stuff could be used for guild buildings, as for charm crafting, you need to go around cities and check, what you require (OR check wiki and dont travel around)
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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #16 on: 16:10:23 - 12/12/08 »
Okay I have what is probably a stupid question concerning "destroy armor" items.  What exactly does that do?  Does that mean that any future armor charms they play during that battle will be reduced by x amount?   :-\

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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #17 on: 16:13:02 - 12/12/08 »
No. It means the current armor the enemy is wearing is diminished by x.  ;)

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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #18 on: 16:50:19 - 12/12/08 »
No. It means the current armor the enemy is wearing is diminished by x.  ;)

So theoretically, if I have a charm with 5 damage and 3 destroy armor, I'd be better off going with one with 9 damage?

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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #19 on: 16:57:49 - 12/12/08 »
Yes.  You're guaranteed to do more damage or destroy more armor with the 9 damage charm.  The 5 damage and destroy 3 armor is at best an "8 damage" charm if your opponent plays armor.

Ex:
Opponent plays 10 armor.

A) You play 5 damage 3 destroy armor charm.  You deal 0 damage but reduce the armor to 2 (3 armor destroyed, then 5 "damage" applied which actually is absorbed by armor)
B) You play 9 damage charm.  You deal 0 damage but reduce the armor to 1  (9 damage is applied but absorbed by armor)

OR

Opponent has no armor.

A)You play 5 damage 3 destroy armor charm.  You deal 5 damage.  No armor is present so the 3 destroy is useless.
B)You play 9 damage charm.  You deal 9 damage.

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« Last Edit: 17:01:07 - 12/12/08 by Elbandito »

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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #20 on: 16:59:01 - 12/12/08 »
No. It means the current armor the enemy is wearing is diminished by x.  ;)

So theoretically, if I have a charm with 5 damage and 3 destroy armor, I'd be better off going with one with 9 damage?

Yes, if you are bad ass berserker-wanna-be. But there are classes witch rely on these charms, as their primary job is to tear down defences. Ohh and probably destroy armor/ward charms are handy in dungeons. But if we are talking about general pvp, all hands down for axes!!! AXE POWER!!!

EDIT: btw, doesnt destroy armor/ward effect comes before damage?
« Last Edit: 17:01:56 - 12/12/08 by Wolfsoul »
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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #21 on: 17:01:23 - 12/12/08 »
Ohh and probably destroy armor/ward charms are handy in dungeons.

Yeah, they kick fishes' asses hard !  :laugh:

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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #22 on: 17:02:13 - 12/12/08 »
Gotcha.  I wasn't sure if it was that simple or not.  Thanks for clarifying guys.   :)

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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #23 on: 17:05:01 - 12/12/08 »
Friguletz uses [Mercenary Drill Fingers]
Dragonlance0's armor drops to 0
Dragonlance0 takes 88 melee damage
Friguletz's armor drops to 0

well this report states that armor gets destroyed first and then damage hits hard
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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #24 on: 17:16:25 - 12/12/08 »
Yeah the destroy is applied first as far as I can tell.
So hypothetically:

Opponent plays 4 armor.
You play 5 damage 3 destroy armor charm.  Opponents armor is reduced to 1, then 5 damage is applied (armor absorbs 1 damage) 4 damage total.

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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #25 on: 17:27:26 - 12/12/08 »
use 8 melee and outcome the same :P
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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #26 on: 20:09:32 - 12/12/08 »
Effects are played in the order they are written on the charm. For example, if the charm said 10 magic damage destroy 10 ward it would first deal 10 damage and then destroy 10 ward if there was any. Fortunately, charms are made so that destroy is before damage. They'd be basically useless otherwise ;)

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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #27 on: 04:15:35 - 12/13/08 »
Except if you're levelling up destruction!

Sigh, crushing mace, sigh. I thought it worked exactly like claws until I noticed it was doing 0 damage....... =(
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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #28 on: 08:19:20 - 12/13/08 »
Actually there are charms that destroy armor/ward after doing their damage - check Acid Daggers and Air Freeze as (possibly the only?) examples.
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Re: Newbie Questions
« Reply #29 on: 09:53:30 - 12/13/08 »
Hmmm, never noticed those two. There are Dark Daggers also. They destroy quite a bit of armor/ward for their level so that might be why they deal damage first.