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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #15 on: 15:29:03 - 10/26/09 »
Drain gets 65% of ongoing boosts.  What does it get from + to next boosts?
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #16 on: 15:35:12 - 10/26/09 »
Drain gets 65% of ongoing boosts.  What does it get from + to next boosts?
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #17 on: 15:50:05 - 10/27/09 »
Is there no difference between an ongoing boost and a +to next boost?  Is that true for EAs and AOE too?
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #18 on: 15:52:39 - 10/27/09 »
Is there no difference between an ongoing boost and a +to next boost?  Is that true for EAs and AOE too?
For Drains and AoE, no.
For EA, of course.
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #19 on: 16:29:37 - 10/27/09 »
Is there no difference between an ongoing boost and a +to next boost?  Is that true for EAs and AOE too?
For Drains and AoE, no.
For EA, of course.

This seems unclear.  You mean, for EA of course there is a difference.  EA only gets a small percentage of +ongoing, but gets the full value of +next.

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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #20 on: 17:27:40 - 10/27/09 »
This seems unclear.  You mean, for EA of course there is a difference.  EA only gets a small percentage of +ongoing, but gets the full value of +next.
Yeah, I forgot the next thing, answered just the ongoing
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #21 on: 20:39:14 - 10/31/09 »
Does Buffing and boosting have effect on Charm Combos, or do Charm combos do a set amount of damage/effect?
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #22 on: 23:59:21 - 10/31/09 »
Does Buffing and boosting have effect on Charm Combos, or do Charm combos do a set amount of damage/effect?
Buffing = Boosting

And yes.
Both To Next and Ongoing.

If a friend plays Flame Scabbard, and in my turn I do Blue Dragon Bone, and after that a Strike. The Flame Strike will come boosted.
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #23 on: 02:22:09 - 11/01/09 »
As I learned, buffing is for next attack, boosting is ongoing.
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #24 on: 18:29:09 - 11/14/09 »
Sorry for a double post, but I wanted to bump this.

If buffing lowers penetration, does Sap increase penetration?  And what about the values, if I use a -100 to next melee, how much is it actually decreased by if penetration is the variable in question?
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #25 on: 18:38:25 - 11/14/09 »
The damage is full decreased, and the Prenetration doesn't change.
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #26 on: 02:32:01 - 01/02/11 »
AOE:
B' = B / ( Number of targets * 0.75 )

Penetration loss:
P' = P * ( 3 * Damage / ( 3 * Damage + boost ) )

What is the formula if the AOE attack occurs during an Extra Action? Does the normal 20% factor come into play?

Scenario:
Turn 1: Player uses [Icy Winds]
Player's magic attacks are increased by up to 5
Player gains 1 actions

Turn 2: Player uses [Icy Winds]
Player's magic attacks are increased by up to 5
Player gains 1 actions

ongoing buff: 10
number of targets: 4
B' = 10 / (4 * 0.75) = 10 / 3 = 3 buff toward each target

Now let's say we use an AOE charm during Turn 3. Since Turn 3 is an Extra Action, do we apply 20% to the buff? That basically wipes it out.. hmm

B' = 0.20 * 10 / (4 * 0.75) = 2 / 3 = 0 buff toward each target


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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #27 on: 02:56:56 - 01/02/11 »
turn 3 is not an extra action. extra action charms are those that specifically say so, for example icy winds. they let you use another charm after them, but that charm is not an extra action charm just because it got played after icy winds (unless it says that it grants an extra action too). so if icy winds would do any damage, the boost would be reduced, but the boost is not reduced for the charm played afterwards because that charm is just a normal charm. there are no charms that would be AOE and EA at the same time, to my knowledge.

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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #28 on: 06:56:18 - 01/02/11 »
turn 3 is not an extra action. extra action charms are those that specifically say so, for example icy winds. they let you use another charm after them, but that charm is not an extra action charm just because it got played after icy winds (unless it says that it grants an extra action too). so if icy winds would do any damage, the boost would be reduced, but the boost is not reduced for the charm played afterwards because that charm is just a normal charm. there are no charms that would be AOE and EA at the same time, to my knowledge.

You could still get an extra action from death spin, blacknerve mixture, or borrowed time. The normal 20% factor should apply in that case, though I can't confirm that it does.
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Re: Buffing and Boosting
« Reply #29 on: 07:34:29 - 01/02/11 »
An AoE attack used on an extra action does indeed only get 20% ongoing.